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Re: John Carter

#171 Post by elski » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:03 pm

June wrote:Mark Kermode has just slated this film on Film 24. Am I the only person who enjoyed it? Waste of time turning the 2d into 3d making viewing unnecessarily uncomfortable having to wear 3d glasses for 2 1/4 hours, but that said I still enjoyed the film, I loved the story, the acting was on the most part very good and I've managed to sit through 2 screenings so surely it can't be that bad???
I've finally made my way through this thread having seen it last night and I think more people enjoyed it than didn't. I know I did. Can't really go by what critics say when they give other films like Haywire etc the thumbs up.
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Re: John Carter

#172 Post by June » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:09 pm

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June wrote:Mark Kermode has just slated this film on Film 24. Am I the only person who enjoyed it? Waste of time turning the 2d into 3d making viewing unnecessarily uncomfortable having to wear 3d glasses for 2 1/4 hours, but that said I still enjoyed the film, I loved the story, the acting was on the most part very good and I've managed to sit through 2 screenings so surely it can't be that bad???
I've finally made my way through this thread having seen it last night and I think more people enjoyed it than didn't. I know I did. Can't really go by what critics say when they give other films like Haywire etc the thumbs up.
Mark Kermode is not one of my favourite film critics, I don't p*y much attention to his opinions, I'd much rather read the reviews on FMUK, the FMUKers really know what they're talking about and they have a true passion for film.
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#173 Post by superhero » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:16 pm

I thought people on FMUK are so busy watching films anyway, they have no time to read reviews!

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#174 Post by June » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:34 pm

superhero wrote:I thought people on FMUK are so busy watching films anyway, they have no time to read reviews!
Luckily enough FMUKers seem to find time to write reviews, which is great for those of us who don't get out as much as we would like to o/
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#175 Post by TheyCallMeMrGlass » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:48 pm

I love Mark Kermode reviews. I hardly agree with any of them. Its all about character and entertainment value when it comes to critics, and Mark is a delightfully eccentric one. I dont think there there is any critic that quite matches my taste anyway. Right now, Kermode, Winkleman (is that the right spelling, Clive? ;) and Danny are charismatic critics that I like to watch or listen to every week. And forget Empire magazine, or Times and Guardian reviews, who needs them when we got our own own David, KK, SF, WF and fmukers more entertaining reviews :)
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Re: John Carter

#176 Post by June » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:21 pm

I love reading all the reviews on the FMUK forums, however I especially enjoy reading KK's reviews as I tend to agree with them too.
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Re: John Carter

#177 Post by elski » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:00 am

baty wrote: And that's the problem with 3D, the fact that motion can be blurred.
yes that's my problem with it, whenever there's some action or a even the camera pans across it just becomes a blur, unles sit's my eyesight :blink: .

Well I finally got to see John Carter at the 'gala' opening of the new Imax screen at Cineworld Sheffield on Thursday night. Apparently it's one of the biggest in Europe but it didn't really look it before the film, I think it's because it was pushed so far forward compared to their other big screens it's hard to take in the scale. They usually have a big flat space in front of the big screens and for this they said they'd moved it forward 7-9 metres and raised the ceiling by 4 metres to accommodate the squarer screen.

Even though it was the night before release there was still the security other people experienced. Had my named ticked off the guest list, then a security man was groping bags, said he didn't want to look inside just squeezed to feel for camera equipment. Then handed my ancient phone over that couldn't take more than a couple of pixels in a pic. Then a security had a hand held scanner/ metal detector to wave in front of people. Then finally collect the Imax glasses and into the screen, phew!
They'd put out big bottles of water and popcorn on most of the seats in the more central area. I ended up with a whole row to myself so ended up eating the popcorn on both sides of me as well as my own :shifty: :oops:

There was weird acoustics going in while we waited, it sounded like there was a party going on behind the screen. But going by this article http://www.exposedmagazine.co.uk/news/2 ... _the_IMAX/ the press were asked there earlier and were out in the bar which I think has doors into it at the top of the seating.

When everyone was finally seated we had speeches from the head of finance from Cineworld, who said Sheffield was one of their best perfoming sites. Secondly from the head of sales from Imax who told a few stories of the development on 3D technology.

Then after all the talk we had trailers. The Dark Knight Rises - the bit with the football field collapsing looked amazing on the Imax screen and felt like he was running out at you. Batman Begins - :blink: I'm assuming they had the old trailer knocking around. Men In Black 3 - never seen or had any interest in the MIB films but the bit where you're in the viewpoint of diving off a skyscraper looked so real made my heart race and it cuts before you hit the ground. The Amazing Spiderman - this is where the action scenes were a 3D blur, and I know they weren't blurry on youtube, the only effective bit was the bit at the end of the trailer with the falling satellite dishes. There might have been another trailer but I can't remember at the moment. The other thing I noticed was the sound, the base was so strong you could feel the vibrations through the seat (who needs D-box?!).

Finally John Carter, I thought it threw you into the new world a bit too quickly and hard to grasp who/what was happening. It got better following it from when John Carter appeared although a few bits passed me by like how he and the aliens could suddenly understand each other. I can't say I noticed much 3D-ness just the immersiveness of Imax which would probably have been just the same in 2D without the glasses. Probably better as the panning and actions scenes, at some points there appeared to be double images on the left hand side of the screen I thought it might be because I was tilting head or my eyesight. It reminded me of the Star Wars prequels without the annoying Jar Jar Binks, the pug dog monster was cute & funny and by not speaking remained that way.

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Re: John Carter

#178 Post by Celini » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:09 am

baty wrote: And that's the problem with 3D, the fact that motion can be blurred.
This is actually not a 3D per se problem; it's a post conversion issue.
Interesting reading on post conversion http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... to_3d.html
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Re: John Carter

#179 Post by elski » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:19 am

But I get the problem with Spiderman and I assume that has been shot in 3D. I can't think of a 3D film where action shots haven't been blurry, even in Avatar, Hugo etc.
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Re: John Carter

#180 Post by Beate » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:49 am

TheyCallMeMrGlass wrote:I love Mark Kermode reviews. I hardly agree with any of them. Its all about character and entertainment value when it comes to critics, and Mark is a delightfully eccentric one. I dont think there there is any critic that quite matches my taste anyway. Right now, Kermode, Winkleman (is that the right spelling, Clive? ;) and Danny are charismatic critics that I like to watch or listen to every week. And forget Empire magazine, or Times and Guardian reviews, who needs them when we got our own own David, KK, SF, WF and fmukers more entertaining reviews :)
Danny Leigh can be fantastically funny, I remember him likening the green babies in John Carter to Brussel Sprouts, then going on to say than when he realises that, Good God, he's on Mars, it was said like he had overslept on the train and woken up in Stoke. :giggle:
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