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Re: Drive

#241 Post by mattymc13 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:07 pm

sw11_2010 wrote:saw this last night, good film (love Gosling) but was the graphic violence so neccesary?!
In a nutshell, yes, because it had little else going for it. I thought the violence turned it into a really fascinating cinematic experience. It was an exhilarating conclusion to the film because of how it transformed from something so mild into something so completely sinister.

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#242 Post by opas » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:11 pm

raj101 wrote: 8. the way Ryan kicked and kicked that man after he was dead was ridiculously OTTP. noone on earth who is sane and trustworthy would do that.
Exactly, but I think that was the point, is he meant to be sane and trustworthy?? - we don't know anything about his background and

[spoiler]I doubt that was the first time he had been in a situation like that, he had already shown he knew how to handle himself but you got the impression it was behaviour he wanted to leave behind - i.e he never carries a gun on these jobs, even though it is clear he has got the wits and fighting skill to provide useful muscle - all he is willing to do is drive. He told Irene that the unremarkable time he spent with her and her son were some of best of his life. Remember when Shannon says Gosling's character had just turned up in the city and took a job on less than minimal p*y even though he is very gifted with cars - sounded like someone who wanted to stay under the radar and is running away from his past.

The stomping in the lift was way excessive for a 'normal' person but I think it was to show us he had a ruthless streak and is a survivor to go along with his technical skills. It makes you think this guy may have a chance against the other professional psychos / mafia out to get him, even if he wants no part of it[/spoiler]
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#243 Post by fetta » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:21 pm

Ditto! I think thats the point of this scene – to make you question his character and past.
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#244 Post by aruif » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:14 pm

am I the only one who really didn't find this all that violent? There were a few small moments of violence yes, and a few quick moments with gore/blood, but you know what Harry Potter films are scarier and more violent than this on the whole, but just without blood. I also thought Hannah was more violent than this film and that's a 12a!

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Re: Drive

#245 Post by raj101 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:44 pm

opas wrote:
raj101 wrote: 8. the way Ryan kicked and kicked that man after he was dead was ridiculously OTTP. noone on earth who is sane and trustworthy would do that.
Exactly, but I think that was the point, is he meant to be sane and trustworthy?? - we don't know anything about his background and

[spoiler]I doubt that was the first time he had been in a situation like that, he had already shown he knew how to handle himself but you got the impression it was behaviour he wanted to leave behind - i.e he never carries a gun on these jobs, even though it is clear he has got the wits and fighting skill to provide useful muscle - all he is willing to do is drive. He told Irene that the unremarkable time he spent with her and her son were some of best of his life. Remember when Shannon says Gosling's character had just turned up in the city and took a job on less than minimal p*y even though he is very gifted with cars - sounded like someone who wanted to stay under the radar and is running away from his past.

The stomping in the lift was way excessive for a 'normal' person but I think it was to show us he had a ruthless streak and is a survivor to go along with his technical skills. It makes you think this guy may have a chance against the other professional psychos / mafia out to get him, even if he wants no part of it[/spoiler]
thanks for the reply. i got that from the film too. Tbh kiking smoeones head out like an egg doesnt really mean you are street smart. He should have had his eyes peeled for a 2nd assassin instead of of embarking on kicking a man already dead if he had any sense. If he was a smart street fighter, he wouldnt waste energy kicking a corpse.

But i agree that it makes him look more seedy/criminal/ruthless/psychotic, or perhaps he was just venting his hate for his murdered friend in the manner of Mad Tommy from Goodfellas. I just didnt get the impression that he really liked 'his friend' - after all he just dated his wife! very mixed up. When he tried to help him, I couldnt help but think he had actually set his 'friend' up, so stupid was the way his help was offered.

I personally think his character wasnt that well thought out, doing a lot of stupid things that he did. Not Ryan's fault he did all the director asked of him and more.

Just my 2p worth - i actually did like this film! It pleasantly suprised me when I was expecting another Gone In 60 Seconds.
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Re: Drive

#246 Post by soonforgotten » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:17 am

aruif wrote:am I the only one who really didn't find this all that violent? There were a few small moments of violence yes, and a few quick moments with gore/blood, but you know what Harry Potter films are scarier and more violent than this on the whole, but just without blood. I also thought Hannah was more violent than this film and that's a 12a!
Nope. To me, it's a testament to how incredible this film is. Sure it has its moments, but there is nothing here that is that bad. For what is actually seen on screen (as opposed to implied or how you're made to experience it) I'd say it's fairly mild.
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#247 Post by Celini » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:44 am

yep, the violence was fine by me as well... but again I am not the rom-com kinda person :roll:
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#248 Post by pcRock » Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:45 am

I didn't find it that violent either (what was shown on screen, that is).

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Re: Drive

#249 Post by Celini » Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:56 am

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Re: Drive

#250 Post by SocialFlutterBy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:54 am

i am also with ya on that aruif i diddn't think the violence was that graphic in fact a lot of the violence was implied you knew it was happening but the minimum was shown as i said earlier i really loved how the violence scene's were acted out i loved both the directors use of silence and sound equally, definatley agree with what someone else said earlier this director is one to watch ;)
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