21 Jump Street

[soonforgotten]

one of those jokes that just isnt funny as you get older is the 'dumb chinese girl' one. I remember seeing that joke in Streetdance, and these little teen girls all laughed at it but I instantly spotted that its a bullshit joke because chinese girls on average seem a lot brighter than the teens who were laughing at the joke. Yeah, i get the joke, but the joke was based on a falsity that stems from racial bigotry, which is yawnifying once you've heard it and laughed at it a few times.

the same day I saw the same kind of joke in Scott Pilgrim, which just goes to show its now very very tedious (though Scott Pilgrim tried to deliver it interestingly - it worked better here because the film took pains to show us that Scott Pilgrim was a serious twit of a boyfriend - and I think that movie might have ede dbetter if he hadnt won the girl in the end).

Uhhh, what? I don't recall the Chinese girl joke in 21 Jump Street, but what in Scott Pilgrim says that Knives is dumb because she's Chinese? She's younger than Scott and is enamored with him because he's in a band. It has nothing to do with her ethnicity.

[raj101]

one of those jokes that just isnt funny as you get older is the 'dumb chinese girl' one. I remember seeing that joke in Streetdance, and these little teen girls all laughed at it but I instantly spotted that its a bullshit joke because chinese girls on average seem a lot brighter than the teens who were laughing at the joke. Yeah, i get the joke, but the joke was based on a falsity that stems from racial bigotry, which is yawnifying once you've heard it and laughed at it a few times.

the same day I saw the same kind of joke in Scott Pilgrim, which just goes to show its now very very tedious (though Scott Pilgrim tried to deliver it interestingly - it worked better here because the film took pains to show us that Scott Pilgrim was a serious twit of a boyfriend - and I think that movie might have ede dbetter if he hadnt won the girl in the end).

Uhhh, what? I don't recall the Chinese girl joke in 21 Jump Street, but what in Scott Pilgrim says that Knives is dumb because she's Chinese? She's younger than Scott and is enamored with him because he's in a band. It has nothing to do with her ethnicity.

there is no such joke in 21 jump street, you misread the connection between my post and this thread. The connection is about humour that older people understand but dont find funny.

SP does play on her being chinese and unable to communicate and rationalise, its the basically the same joke as in Streetdance but told much better, as I said because it makes sure Scott looks the bigger twit by far. He is a horrible little tween, which adds to the movie - you realise that you are rooting for not a video game hero, but a badly flawed anti-hero who was immature enough to date Knives. He didnt deserve a happy ending. In fact, given the chance, you'd probably deck the twit.

[soonforgotten]

SP does play on her being chinese and unable to communicate and rationalise, its the basically the same joke as in Streetdance but told much better, as I said because it makes sure Scott looks the bigger twit by far. He is a horrible little tween, which adds to the movie - you realise that you are rooting for not a video game hero, but a badly flawed anti-hero who was immature enough to date Knives. He didnt deserve a happy ending.

I honestly have no idea where you get the connection between her character being a young girl infatuated with an older rocker guy and a Chinese person unable to communicate and rationalise. No such correlation is made. Say what you will about Scott being a flawed character; he definitely is and I think that hurt the box office for SP vs the World, but you're drawing baseless conclusions about how Knives was portrayed. She's a young girl depicted as such. It's not about ethnicity, it's about age.

[raj101]

SP does play on her being chinese and unable to communicate and rationalise, its the basically the same joke as in Streetdance but told much better, as I said because it makes sure Scott looks the bigger twit by far. He is a horrible little tween, which adds to the movie - you realise that you are rooting for not a video game hero, but a badly flawed anti-hero who was immature enough to date Knives. He didnt deserve a happy ending.

I honestly have no idea where you get the connection between her character being a young girl infatuated with an older rocker guy and a Chinese person unable to communicate and rationalise. No such correlation is made. Say what you will about Scott being a flawed character; he definitely is and I think that hurt the box office for SP vs the World, but you're drawing baseless conclusions about how Knives was portrayed. She's a young girl depicted as such. It's not about ethnicity, it's about age.

I'd wonder why she was depicted as chinese, a minority in schools, but who fit a 'stupid' stereotype to the the majority of less cultured viewers. Perhaps I missed a point, was Scott in China in the movie?

although I have nothing against anyone being portrayed as stupid of course, the obviousness of it becomes more striking when you see it in one movie (Streetdance) and then see it in the very next 'young' movie you watch an hour later. What are the odds, huh?

Dont get me wrong, though, the SP movie handled it better than the blatancy of the pretty crappy Streetdance.

Perhaps I over reacted a little, its an odd coincidence that I got to see the two films back to back on the same day and the shared material is a bit in your face when they are seen like that.

[EthanRunt]

Had to see this film like a normo, but I've finally seen it, and man, the buzz was correct indeed. Despite horrendous trailers, this is the funniest film I've seen this year, beating Goon, Cabin and Shame.
I had horrible dread that Lord and Miller's live-action debut was more them doing someone else's work for the ability to further their career, but despite Bacall's script, there's so many little Lard/Miller nuggets in there, and wow, can they shoot action to boot.
I've loved these guys for years (They gave us Clone High ffs!) do I'm so happy that this film more than meets their previous works. As for Jonah, well, I'm glad he got thinner, and for a role that was worth it too. He's likable and hysterical. As is Tatum, who finally has a reason to exist as an actor.
Great to see Nick Offerman on the big screen, any Swanson-ite would be thrilled.

I'm happy to compare this to The Raid in so much as with The Raid, each subsequent action sequence out-does the former, yet never makes that one less enjoyable in comparison. 21 Jump Street's big set-pieces, and smaller character jokes, do this with ease. Also, the runner about expectant explosions in car chases, fabtastic. With two great punch-lines wrung out of the same premise.
Love this film so much. A great comedy, and a great thriller. I dunno about you, but I was sucked into the story, into the mysteries of who it could be supplying the drugs. Hard to do when the main focus is to make an audience laugh.
10/10

[superhero]

I really liked the film, but hardly anyone laughed at my screening

[cinefila1]

I've bee raving about this film to friends since I saw it last week. In fact, I liked it so much that I went to see it again last Monday. It's such a blast! Who would have thought that Tatum could give such a good comic performance. Together with Jonah they make the perfect hapless rookies. And Ice Cube's Captain Dickson gives some hilarious moments too. Obvioulsy, the door has been left open for a sequel. Can't wait!

[teddybear1]

i loved this film total stupidity and right up my street lol i think i nearly fell off my seat a few times would give this a 9/10 brilliant

[hugo_macedo]

This was a very nice movie. I liked the idea of putting two spies spying at each other and consuming all the resources of the government running after a girl. Very vool indeed :)! The atmosphere in my screening was pretty good, everyone was having a good laugh.

[brettie]

going for a second session of this, but have to p*y, but its worth it