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Re: Man of Steel

#101 Post by caitlinmorton » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:00 pm

I really enjoyed this for most of the reasons c_t said she hated it, actually. I liked that it wasn't conventional, and that it didn't include some of the camper elements of it. [spoiler]fortress, kryptonite, etc... and how else was Clark supposed to find out who he was if his dad wasn't around? It makes sense how they did it, and Zod had a key too, so it wasn't like it was unique to their family. Also, the key blew up with the ship, so Jor-el likely won't be showing up in sequels unless he was downloaded elsewhere, which I don't think he was.[/spoiler]

I agree that the 3D was absolutely not necessary and I'm not convinced any of it was actually in 3D, could have done without the homage to JJ with the lens flares as well.

Regarding [spoiler]the glasses thing[/spoiler] I think people just have to suspend disbelief. Yeah, its a bit unrealistic, but so is [spoiler]every single Cinderella story ever. No one recognizes her at the ball either.[/spoiler]

I'm pretty sure if I had to spend the rest of my life looking at only one thing Henry Cavill's smile would be that thing. God he's handsome.

Has anyone realized they did the exact same thing with the Dark Knight, they took it and made it different, this film focused on some of the emotional issues Superman has, and the pressure he is under being different. I haven't watched Lois & Clark since it originally aired, so can't speak on that, but Smallville took A LOT of liberties, for a while it was a good show, but when they brought in Lois Lane when Clark was still in high school I couldn't handle it anymore. Maybe you all hated the Dark Knight, but I'm not sure you can say you loved one and hated the other because of the way they adapted the story in MoS. Nolan knows what he is doing.

I will admit at the beginning I wasn't sold on Michael Shannon, but by the middle he had me.

I also liked [spoiler]the little reference to Lexcorp. Can't wait to see who they get to play him, he must be coming.[/spoiler]

Overall my friend and I really loved this. Amy Adams was great, though I do agree with Beate the beginning made me feel kind of ill, had to get used to the camera work. I think it would have been much better in 2D.

Lovely to see everyone tonight. Big thanks to asamaic and OH for keeping me seats while I waited for my friend to arrive. Was expecting to be let in at 6, not 5:45, and she was in before 6!

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Re: Man of Steel

#102 Post by caitlinmorton » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:03 pm

stuartboy wrote:There's gonna be a young man in 20 years time who's gonna be mortified that his wee willy appeared several times on screen. Lol. Poor boy.
I remember reading an article when they were filming this, its not that he has a 'wee willy', they actually CGI-ed it to look smaller because it was too big. Word on the street is Henry Cavill is incredibly well-endowed.

Here's hoping that is the last time I ever discuss someone's nether regions on this board.

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Re: Man of Steel

#103 Post by drizzy5oh » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:04 pm

Overrated by critics, this was average. I am disappointed that this was produced by Chris Nolan, he has set the bar high with Batman and this didnt really come close.

Film was very disjointed, it dragged for the last half hour and the trailers spoil the film.

Laurence Fishburne was SEVERELY underused.

Russel Crowe and Kev Costner steal the show from the leads.

The early scenes on Krypton brought a tear to my eye very emotional and intense.

Hans Zimmers score was irritating as there were hints of a decent theme (the der der der der dub duh duh der der der der one!) that never really reached a decent height compared to the Batman trilogy.

5/10

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#104 Post by Beate » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:07 pm

stuartboy wrote:Far too jumpy back and forth - it was almost as if it had been chopped up and put back together in the wrong order in the editting suite. It would have worked just fine in chronological order.
God yeah, that irritated the hell out of me!

Glad to see I am not the only one underwhelmed by this - I thought I might come home to Superman ravings from everybody else.
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#105 Post by alythonian » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:24 pm

Underwhelmed and exhausted. gee that was long.

We didn't start in Edinburgh until 7.30. they checked names and ID.

I wasn't expecting much so why do I still feel cheated? I remember going to see the first one with my dad when I was a wee girl and it was really special. This was not really special.

3D was superflous in the most part to my mind.

It was jumpy (but Rusell Crowe's accent wasn't for once) and bitty. Then when we got to the fight at the end someone clearly let Michael Bay direct or write a bit as it turned into a scene they stole from Transformers and it went on and on and on...........that bit was phenomenally dull.

Henry Cavill was fine in the role,not bad for a boy from Jersey (the island rather than the US State). Amy Adams did a good job.

But...still disappointed. 5/10 from me.
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#106 Post by asamaic » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:31 pm

Ok, fuller thoughts are in the spoiler tags.

[spoiler]I know it was a reboot, but I got the Star Trek reboot and I didn't get this. Jonathan was meant to be a delightful, wholesome, principled man who would have given up his life in a heartbeat to save his son - not to prove a point. The Jonathan from The New Adventures, basically.

Agree with c_t, Lois needs to fall in love with Clark and Superman separately - this Lois fell for the hunk who saved her life, how did Clark know she loved him for him? Actually, what was he doing kissing someone in awe of him, like a groupie! No! Supes is a boy scout, he wouldn't do that.

Or would he, with the shitty father figure? Martha was ok, Jonathan wasn't right.

Zor El = scientist. Not the gladiator, not Valjean. Most scientists don't have ninja fighty skills.

Zod - where did the supervillian lispy voice come from?

Too much destruction. And fighting around ciivilians. Even with the shitty father figure.

I understand why Superman killed Zod, but I don't understand why he wasn't consumed with guilt and why he didn't hide away for years after, brooding.

I wasn't sure about the Perry casting, but then the acting sold me. And I loved how Perry didn't run - he stayed with Jenny and he looked her in the eye. It's what Perry would do. Good guy. Like Jonathan. Oh, wait. Not this Jonathan.[/spoiler]
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Re: Man of Steel

#107 Post by SOLACE » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:33 pm

This movie although fairly good in some places was very dissapointing for me . I think zack snyder was the wrong person to take the helm of a superman reboot, its just was not made right, it didnt have a classic feeling to it , i just think as a juiced up action movie it was good and people may be won over by this , but as a superman movie it was VERY disappointing, was not put together properly, action was a bit over the top and to be honest the action wasnt even very clear too because of the camerawork , im still trying to draw a full on conclusion about this movie and the only thing that comes to mind right now is that it had potential but they didnt reach it by a mile , and it was given to the wrong director

I'm glad i read the reviews on here because i thought i was going to be alone in my opinions of this movie
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Re: Man of Steel

#108 Post by prettyxcool » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:44 pm

Arrived before 6pm and was surprised that people were in already! But managed to get the last few remaining seats left in the back row for me and mandmc10 and family. Film started almost on time, after going to the loo a few times, hanging around with Beate, ejwrank and david, saying hi to caitlinmorton, asamaic, funthing, c_t, and schmile.

A new twist on the classic story, it has all the ingredients that I like sci-fi, tense, action-packed, love interest (that is just Henry Cavill for me!). I am a big Superman fan and had high expectations, but the story jumped around too much, and was there any 3D? A lot of character study of Superman, and also a lot of back story. But, on the whole loved it. 8/10
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#109 Post by TheOnes » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:45 pm

Wow. Honestly thought this was going to be so much better than it was

Me and a friend arrived at the O2 at 5:20, and following reports of After Earth showing in the Sky Superscreen, i decided to ask where to line up. Found a cinema worker outisde the Superscreen and asked her where the Sky Screening was, and she said: "In here", pointing to the Superscreen, i was surprised. Then she said: "I can let you two in if you want", and after some back and forth banter for a few minutes i handed her my ticket and she said: "Oh thats not for here, thats for over there", pointing to the other side of the room. Felt a tad humiliated and cowered over to the queue. Asked more staff who magically appeared and i joined the correct line. At around 5:40 or so we started to get let in, and the I.D check went smoothly as it normally does.

As for the film...it was.....i think it thought it was much smarter than it actually was. Visually stunning but thats about it. The themes and questions it asks arent analysed that well. Characters ask some of the questions in really awkward and heavy handed ways. They don't explore those questions and what it means to be an outsider, they just state it and don't follow up or dig deep on a personal journey of self discovery and how a non-human inspires the best in humanity, but humanity is ofcourse going to feel threatened. It thinks just stating it out loud qualifies as being "smart" or "insightful". But it was just too blatent and not sublte or explored well enough for me. The dialogue is insipid at points along with being heavy handed and rough around the edges. Characters state their character descriptions in a few lines and it just felt like poor writing to me. The peripherial characters arent fleshed out enough and as long as it is, it still rushes through so much. Like aquiring the suit, Clark and Lois's "relationship". Etc. So much was over explained and other things were woefully under explained which led to unfortunate gaps and logical inconsistencies.

In terms of the structure, i actually liked that. Gradually filling in Clarks background as certain things in present day trigger his memories and how his past helps him out in the present, this was one of the few things i did love about the movie. But overall, for a movie that was all about modernising Superman, they did use a few too many old fashioned cliche's. But the action was flawless. The end one on one fight with Zod blew me away (even more so that it took place against the backdrop of an annihilated city. Made it all the more haunting. But the solutions to the problems were awful [spoiler]Taking out the Terraforming device was the equivalent of a cartoon character putting his finger in a gun. And Breaking Zod's neck felt anti-climactic and part of the logical inconsistencies. Invulnerable my ass. Dumb solution. And the time limit to save the family from the heat vision was laughable and cliched[/spoiler]

Overall, a 6/10 from me. Its balance was totally off and was far too ambitious for the writing ability it had.
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Re: Man of Steel

#110 Post by stuartboy » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:49 pm

caitlinmorton wrote:
stuartboy wrote:There's gonna be a young man in 20 years time who's gonna be mortified that his wee willy appeared several times on screen. Lol. Poor boy.
I remember reading an article when they were filming this, its not that he has a 'wee willy', they actually CGI-ed it to look smaller because it was too big. Word on the street is Henry Cavill is incredibly well-endowed.

Here's hoping that is the last time I ever discuss someone's nether regions on this board.
Haha - I was referring to the newborn naked Superman. i wasn't p*ying any attention to Henry's bits (or lack thereof).
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