The Dark Knight Rises

[canadian_turtle]

a decent enough villain is one we can resonate with, we can understand at least their motivations at points. Bane was far too "I'm big and strong and destroying Gotham just cos".

Exactly what I was trying to convey, thanks for writing it down more understandable than I did.

[soonforgotten]

With The Joker, he entertained whilst on screen to the point where you questioned if you should really enjoy his antics, and when he delved into his 'plan' a bit more, as an audience we sort-of understood is viewpoint. A great villain, of course, is the hero had they taken a different path, but a decent enough villain is one we can resonate with, we can understand at least their motivations at points. Bane was far too "I'm big and strong and destroying Gotham just cos".

It's not just cos, though. The ideology has been established. This is what the League of Shadows is about.

[weliveandbreathewords]

There was a minor zzz list Caleb at the Birmingham screening..Kate Lawler.

Im guessing thats who owned the giant Kerrang truck parked right next to my BF's car then?
Yeah I was frustrated at the emptiness of the screening!
Literally for the first time ever, I could have done(thought I didnt), ran around all the empty seats and picked up atleast 20 extra goody bags(with dairy milks in them) and drench bottles of water!

I also noticed that the tantrum woman from The Lorax screening was sat directly in front of me

[tonethestone]

With The Joker, he entertained whilst on screen to the point where you questioned if you should really enjoy his antics, and when he delved into his 'plan' a bit more, as an audience we sort-of understood is viewpoint. A great villain, of course, is the hero had they taken a different path, but a decent enough villain is one we can resonate with, we can understand at least their motivations at points. Bane was far too "I'm big and strong and destroying Gotham just cos".

It's not just cos, though. The ideology has been established. This is what the League of Shadows is about.

absolutely, i think people who see Bane as just muscle who stands and hit things, must have missed some of the backstory. he also had some great lines.

[EthanRunt]

Yes, he has the slight affiliation to the LoS, but as he's just carrying off someone else's plan, how is that an effective villain? The henchman to someone not in the film? That's like if the Silver Surfer came into a Fantastic Four film without Galactus.

[moggers]

Rawr you should have LOL. We got nought at Glasgow

[jeanelle]

Literally for the first time ever, I could have done(thought I didnt), ran around all the empty seats and picked up atleast 20 extra goody bags(with dairy milks in them) and drench bottles of water!

You had goody bags????

[weliveandbreathewords]

They wernt anything special, a brown paper bag, with the EMPIREcinema weekly/monthly? movie mag in it, a leaflet with their offers and a dairy milk bar, and every seat had a bottle of drench water.
Exactly the same cinema screen and goody bags for HPATDHP2 premiere!

[canadian_turtle]

With The Joker, he entertained whilst on screen to the point where you questioned if you should really enjoy his antics, and when he delved into his 'plan' a bit more, as an audience we sort-of understood is viewpoint. A great villain, of course, is the hero had they taken a different path, but a decent enough villain is one we can resonate with, we can understand at least their motivations at points. Bane was far too "I'm big and strong and destroying Gotham just cos".

It's not just cos, though. The ideology has been established. This is what the League of Shadows is about.

absolutely, i think people who see Bane as just muscle who stands and hit things, must have missed some of the backstory. he also had some great lines.

I didn't miss it, but I didn't care for it either. It's personal preference if you like a character and connect to them or not and I did not.

They wernt anything special, a brown paper bag, with the EMPIREcinema weekly/monthly? movie mag in it, a leaflet with their offers and a dairy milk bar, and every seat had a bottle of drench water.
Exactly the same cinema screen and goody bags for HPATDHP2 premiere!

That's still more than us! (we got nothing) I am really craving chocolate too

[raj101]

Bane in comic books needed to look much larger than life, it conveyed how he dwarfed Batty in a way no other villain (bar maybe Solomon Grundy) had. Celluloid has other means of getting this across that overwhelming threatening image.

Glad Jean Paul Valley was minimised/removed too, he was oafishly dangerous in comics, but would have been just a plain oaf on the screen (unless he'd been CGIed to death).