Kick-Ass

[prettyxcool]

I always get the tall people in front of me!

I was thinking about SimonV's suggestion in the movie wondering "why did I not bring a pillow."

LOL that would be funny bringing a pillow, especially as I'm going to start bringing a blanket cos I get so cold with air con, especially on the legs

yeah, that's why I aways wrap my coat around my legs!

[Beate]

Is there a chance we could get back to the topic, the thread is already 21 pages long, LOL.

[milkchocmonkey]

Is there a chance we could get back to the topic, the thread is already 21 pages long, LOL.

what was the original topic???

[valda]

a_person I thought I saw you walk past me on the way down to the cinema, but by the time I remembered your name you were long gone

Lol. If I was with the guy wearing a bright red top then yep that was moi.

Imagine if you shouted out a_person instead....

I would have looked liek a nutter! I would have shouted Tommy

[valda]

For those who are interested, heres the BBFC details for this (swear words edited by moi)




Extended Classification Information (*SPOILER ALERT* Information may include plot details)
Extended Classification Information (*SPOILER ALERT* Information may include plot details)

KICK-ASS is a comedy action adventure in which an ordinary teenage boy decides to make a stand against the street crime in his city by becoming a superhero known as 'Kick-Ass'. The film was passed ‘15’ for strong language, one use of very strong language and strong bloody comic violence.

The film contains multiple uses of strong language. These exceed the '12A'/'12' Guidelines where there may be only infrequent strong language but are permissible at '15' where the Guidelines state that 'There may be frequent use of strong language (for example, 'f**k')'. The Guidelines at ‘15’ also state that the ‘strongest terms (for example, ‘c**t’) may be acceptable if justified by the context. Aggressive or repeated use of the strongest language is unlikely to be acceptable’. KICK-ASS contains one use of very strong language. The word is spoken by a young girl who, like Kick-Ass, has become a makeshift superhero. Although some people might be offended by a child using this type of language, the predominant effect is comic. The young girl in question possesses incredible strength and agility and manages to dispatch a large group of adult male villains immediately after making the remark to them. The remark is delivered in a throwaway fashion rather than aggressively directed and the unexpectedness and incongruity of the use provides a comic justification for its inclusion.

There are numerous scenes of strong bloody violence throughout the film as the various would-be superheros battle the baddies. Many of these violent scenes show blood spray from gunshot wounds as well as the occasional severing of limbs, cutting of throats or stabbing of hands. While there is copious blood loss these scenes do not breach the BBFC Guidelines at ‘15’ by dwelling ‘on the infliction of pain or injury'. This is especially so given that most occur in the context of a cartoonish style of choreographed violence that is rapidly edited and focuses more on the inventive skill and panache of the heroes than the detail of the wounds that are inflicted. Other scenes present violence in a more realistic and less comedic style with vicious beatings meted out to a couple of restrained heroes and one scene in which one of the main bad characters assaults the young girl superhero. However, those doing the beatings have been clearly established as evil characters and the audience is encouraged to feel sympathy for the victims rather than revel in the violence being inflicted. At the same time, the audience knows that the highly skilled good guys are likely to regain the upper hand very swiftly. None of the violence inflicted presents the ‘strongest gory images’ which would be unacceptable under BBFC Guidelines at ‘15’ and the comedic, fantastical tone of the film as a whole means that even the strongest moments of violent action have a lighter counterbalance.

The film also contains some strong sex references, including references to a teen boy liking to ‘jerk off’ and scenes of implied below screen masturbation, as well as verbal references to drugs and sight of a man smoking a bong and another man snorting a line of coke. There are also many scenes in which weapons such as knives and guns are displayed and handled, including by a young girl who is shown to be proficient in their use. These are presented in a comically excessive manner and are designed to play up the rather ridiculous idea of having trained a young girl to be an assassin.


This work was passed with no cuts made.

[steve9872]

This work was passed with no cuts made.

The filmmakers usually add scenes deliberately which they expect will be cut by the censor, so that other borderline scenes essential to the story don't get cut. This result was probably a surprise to the filmmakers.

[valda]

This work was passed with no cuts made.

The filmmakers usually add scenes deliberately which they expect will be cut by the censor, so that other borderline scenes essential to the story don't get cut. This result was probably a surprise to the filmmakers.

I used to work for United INternational Pictures and remember watching a film with someone from the print department, who had to count the swear words and offensive scenes before submitting it for classification

[TheyCallMeMrGlass]

my point was about advertising.

So you're saying the fact that this film had widespread advertising means said advertising was misleading? Nonsense. Consider this...
Most R-rated films don't get red-band trailers. This one got not one, not two, but three. Its advertising was in no way misleading. People made the same comments about Watchmen, complaining that they couldn't take their kids to see them (though in America, it's rather scary because they can and some did).
My advice, not just to you but to everyone: stop associating superheroes with kids. You can if you like associate superheroes with comics, but know that (with the exception of titles like the Beano, the Dandy, etc) mainstream comics have not been suitable for children for the last 25 years. Comics from the 60s may be safe for PG-13/12A adaptations (which, most people don't realise, is a direct replacement for the old 12 rating - most parents regard it the same as PGs), but to have thought that an adaptation of a comic from the last couple of years (let alone this one!) would be kid-friendly is seriously f**ked up.

Regardless of the advertising, the film is rated 15. That's all that everyone needs to know. That's what certificates are for. 15 these days includes sex, drugs, nudity, violence, gore, hard core swearing, you name it. In fact I have no idea why we even have 18 certs anymore. If a film is an 18 cert it must be a bloody porn movie.

Advertising will always be toned down for the general public because obviously kids are exposed to the advertising. So you can never go by advertising but just the certificate. But the question is, does the Joe public know what a 15 rated movie contains? I think many people would have expected an 18 cert for this film (I do, going by the red band trailers). On top of that most of the joe public would just see these really cool inticing posters of superheroes in colourful cosutumes, and see the Universal rated trailers, containing a kid in power rangers costume, kicking ass like a Power Ranger! So I can actually see, given a 15 cert, how they would still be oblivious to the fact that a child uses the C word, and contains a lot of gore and apparantly harsh sexual references. And yes there are 3 red band trailers but the question is, how many people even know the existence of them? Not many, we know about them because we are film fans and we're internet savvy, but Joe Public may not be. And I think that is the main point trying to be made by some here. And Joe Public wont be seeing your post warning not to associate superheros with kids!

It all boils down to a film rating and wether we can trust it.

Anyway, I dont think I saw a review from you but I expect you really dug it, did it meet your expectations?!? I'm really pumped to see it when its released and I'm having high expectations, should it be lowered?

[TheyCallMeMrGlass]

Man, I'm really slow when I write, I didnt see Valda's post! But my point is still vaild in my last post, its just that a 15 cert is certainly more giving then it used to be!

[Beate]

He hasn't seen it yet!